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Title: The Path of Daggers
Author: Robert Jordan
Publisher: Published December 15th 1999 by Tor Books (first published October 20th 1998)
ISBN: 9780812550290
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The Seanchan invasion force is in possession of Ebou Dar. Nynaeve, Elayne, and Aviendha head for Caemlyn and Elayne's rightful throne, but on the way they discover an enemy much worse than the Seanchan. In Illian, Rand vows to throw the Seanchan back as he did once before. But signs of madness are appearing among the Asha'man. In Ghealdan, Perrin faces the intrigues of White The Seanchan invasion force is in possession of Ebou Dar. Nynaeve, Elayne, and Aviendha head for Caemlyn and Elayne's rightful throne, but on the way they discover an enemy much worse than the Seanchan. In Illian, Rand vows to throw the Seanchan back as he did once before. But signs of madness are appearing among the Asha'man. In Ghealdan, Perrin faces the intrigues of Whitecloaks, Seanchan invaders, the scattered Shaido Aiel, and the Prophet himself. Perrin's beloved wife, Faile, may pay with her life, and Perrin himself may have to destroy his soul to save her. Meanwhile the rebel Aes Sedai under their young Amyrlin, Egwene al'Vere, face an army that intends to keep them away from the White Tower. But Egwene is determined to unseat the usurper Elaida and reunite the Aes Sedai. She does not yet understand the price that others—and she herself—will pay.

30 review for The Path of Daggers

  1. 5 out of 5

    Melissa ♥ Dog/Wolf Lover ♥ Martin

    These books hold a special place. It's just that simple.

  2. 5 out of 5

    Jessica ❁ ➳ Silverbow ➳ ❁ Rabid Reads-no-more

    NOTICE: this reread is in preparation for finally biting the bullet and reading book 14. That means I HAVE NOT read book 14 yet. Please be mindful of this in the comments, both for me and for others who may or may not have progressed past this point in the series. Thank you. Reviewed by: Rabid Reads So . . . I debated long and hard about how to rate THE PATH OF DAGGERS, book 8 in Robert Jordan's WHEEL OF TIME . . . I think by now it's pretty obvious that I love this series, but . . . 1. No Mat. Lik NOTICE: this reread is in preparation for finally biting the bullet and reading book 14. That means I HAVE NOT read book 14 yet. Please be mindful of this in the comments, both for me and for others who may or may not have progressed past this point in the series. Thank you. Reviewed by: Rabid Reads So . . . I debated long and hard about how to rate THE PATH OF DAGGERS, book 8 in Robert Jordan's WHEEL OF TIME . . . I think by now it's pretty obvious that I love this series, but . . . 1. No Mat. Like NONE. About halfway through, I got super impatient, b/c #7 ends with him getting conked on the head, lights out, and, yeah, I know what happens next (b/c rererereread), but still, where the blood and bloody ashes is he? So I started flipping through the chapters, checking out the icons, looking for the tell-tale dice, and I FOUND THEM. So I relaxed, and I put on my patient hat . . . Only to discover it was a LIE. Don't get me wrong, I like Talmanes as much as the next person, but Talmanes is NOT Mat. 2. Aes Sedai shenanigans. There are two types of shenanigans, as far as I'm concerned: the good kind that mean FUN, and the Aes Sedai kind that mean NEGATIVE FUN. I've already explained which type these are. Aes Sedai shenanigans mean scheming and machinations. They mean HUBRIS. They mean ignoring the obvious b/c they know better, even when what they "know" has been definitively proven wrong over and over again. Things Aes Sedai know: 1. The Black Ajah is a filthy rumor. 2. Being Stilled or Severed from the Source cannot be healed. 3. No more than a handful of men develop the ability to Channel every year. 4. Abilities like Traveling and creating new ter'angreal have been lost since the Age of Legends. 5. Only an Aes Sedai can inhibit another's ability to channel. FALSE, one and all. And admittedly, there are few Aes Sedai who are privy to ALL the contradictory information, but most know at least half, and still, when confronted with undeniable evidence of yet another falsely assumed belief, they refuse to acknowledge the possibility that they're mistaken until concrete proof is waved under their noses, and even then they pick it apart, b/c not convinced. It's maddening. Even more so when the logical and inevitable conclusion of the actions they've taken results in physically becoming sick and wails and denials. "We've divided the Tower b/c usurper and blatant abuse of the spirit of the law, gathered over 30k soldiers for our army, and acquired one of the most respected Generals in our world, but actually returning to the Tower with our army and our General to start the war we've been planning . . .?" *throws up messily in corner* #GTFO And those are just the Aes Sedai that Egwene's stuck with. The Aes Sedai/Kin/Windfinders with Elayne and Nynaeve's group are a whole separate irritation. But in that case, Elayne is the bigger annoyance. Whether she's doingthething she shouldn't be doing, b/c if Aviendha can do it, the Daughter Heir of Andor can do it, too, or making meaningless connections while missing the obvious and IMPORTANT ones, I wish this red-haired future queen was a Red Shirt, and good riddance. BUT. There is more to THE PATH OF DAGGERS then a lack of Mat, Aes Sedai shenanigans, and Elayne-whom-I-hate-loathe-despise-and-abominate. There's also: 1. A bevy of formidable women-whom-I-LOVE: Alise, Cadsuane, Sorilea, Cadsuane, Cadsuane, Cadsuane. 2. The reappearance of Elyas, who gives Perrin some much needed insight into the minds of Saldean women. 3. Egwene out Aes Sedai-ing the Aes Sedai. 4. TWO revelations: (view spoiler)[gholam are most likely part Aelfinn/Eelfinn (b/c human blood has the sweetest "savor," and Mistress Anan is almost certainly a former Aes Sedai who was burned out, specifically, Martine Janata, the last Aes Sedai to make a study of ter'angreal. (hide spoiler)] So not all bad. But no Mat and too much stupid Aes Sedai nonsense, so not my favorite, either. Read it b/c it's necessary, then move on, is my advice. My other reviews for this series: The Eye of the World (Wheel of Time, #1) by Robert Jordan The Great Hunt (Wheel of Time, #2) by Robert Jordan The Dragon Reborn (Wheel of Time, #3) by Robert Jordan The Shadow Rising (Wheel of Time, #4) by Robert Jordan The Fires of Heaven (Wheel of Time, #5) by Robert Jordan Lord of Chaos (Wheel of Time, #6) by Robert Jordan A Crown of Swords (Wheel of Time, #7) by Robert Jordan Winter's Heart (Wheel of Time, #9) by Robert Jordan Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time, #10) by Robert Jordan New Spring (Wheel of Time, #0) by Robert Jordan

  3. 4 out of 5

    Markus

    Usually my reviewing style includes a plot synopsis at the beginning, but through experience I’ve come to the realisation that it’s most often a huge advantage when the book actually has a plot. This was essentially Interlude: the Book. No plot development, no character development, no setting development, no... development. At all. And you don't need to tell me it gets worse. I know. The chapters written from the viewpoint of the main protagonists are downright boring. Quite the opposite is true Usually my reviewing style includes a plot synopsis at the beginning, but through experience I’ve come to the realisation that it’s most often a huge advantage when the book actually has a plot. This was essentially Interlude: the Book. No plot development, no character development, no setting development, no... development. At all. And you don't need to tell me it gets worse. I know. The chapters written from the viewpoint of the main protagonists are downright boring. Quite the opposite is true for the chapters written from the viewpoint of minor characters, like the Forsaken, the Seanchan and the Black Ajah. But unfortunately, there are so depressingly few of them. Then we have people being stupid, other people being incomprehensibly stupid, the development of what has the potential to be the worst love plot in fantasy, and Faile being Faile (that’s the worst part). And the only real redeeming quality of the book is called Cadsuane Melaidhrin. The only reason this doesn't get two stars is because it's a Wheel of Time book and it allows me to spend more time in this wonderful world. But if I were to be objective, it's definitely closer to two stars than three. At least I read most of the book in less than twenty-four hours. That must count for something. Though the book was only 672 pages, which is barely even a novella by Robert Jordan’s standards. Fortunately, I still love the series a lot more than when I was reading the first three books. And this changes nothing. Wheel of Time reviews: #1 The Eye of the World #2 The Great Hunt #3 The Dragon Reborn #4 The Shadow Rising #5 The Fires of Heaven #6 Lord of Chaos #7 A Crown of Swords #8 The Path of Daggers #9 Winter's Heart #10 Crossroads of Twilight #11 Knife of Dreams #12 The Gathering Storm #13 Towers of Midnight #14 A Memory of Light

  4. 5 out of 5

    Manju

    Slow like it's predecessor but few major events happened in this book which in turn make the story in next book look very exciting.

  5. 4 out of 5

    Robin (Bridge Four)

    Month 8 and Book 8 go hand in hand with my buds at Buddies Books & Baubles This will forever be THE BOOK WITHOUT MAT.... When The Wheel of Time began there was Rand, Perrin and Mat. I didn't even like Mat very much. It wasn't until maybe book 3 or 4 (seriously they start to run together) that his character became semi interesting. Now he is one of my favorites and he is missing the entire book. Instead we have Aes Sedea shenanigans. Really I'm still of the opinion that if you can channel the on Month 8 and Book 8 go hand in hand with my buds at Buddies Books & Baubles This will forever be THE BOOK WITHOUT MAT.... When The Wheel of Time began there was Rand, Perrin and Mat. I didn't even like Mat very much. It wasn't until maybe book 3 or 4 (seriously they start to run together) that his character became semi interesting. Now he is one of my favorites and he is missing the entire book. Instead we have Aes Sedea shenanigans. Really I'm still of the opinion that if you can channel the one power if you are a man you slowly go mad, but if you are a woman you loose all common sense. Most of the Aes Sedea plot line drives me crazy and so since we spend so much time with it this time I just spent most of the book frustrated. I'm not going to spend a ton of time on this review because this was my least favorite installment. For Rand there are some good developments or reveals. Hopefully he won't go traipsing off without Min or the Maidens again. But chances are he is a woolheaded fool and will make that same mistake again. Perrin might have finally figured out his wife with a little outside help. I'm glad because that meant I figured her out too and now some of the confusing bits of the last books make more sense. Finally!!! Finally we have meetings and do things with the Sea Folk. I feel like I have been waiting forever for them to enter the story. And last but not least (it was actually one of my favorite things of the story) there is the reunion of Lan and Nynaeve. THANK YOU!!! I feel like they have been apart for 5 books *grumbles* probably because they have. All in all it didn't seem like a lot actually happened in this book until the last 80 pages as usual and it actually ended on a few cliff hanger situations. But I'm marching forward and so I'm on to book 9 for September.

  6. 4 out of 5

    Kat Hooper

    ORIGINALLY POSTED AT Fantasy Literature. The best thing I can say about The Path of Daggers is that it is significantly shorter than the last few novels have been -- only 700 pages (mass market paperback) compared to the 900-1100 page novels that have preceded it. There is much less of the repetitive backstory. I guess Mr. Jordan finally realized that new readers aren't jumping in at this point. However, that's not to say that there are 700 pages of plot here, either. For again, most of the pages ORIGINALLY POSTED AT Fantasy Literature. The best thing I can say about The Path of Daggers is that it is significantly shorter than the last few novels have been -- only 700 pages (mass market paperback) compared to the 900-1100 page novels that have preceded it. There is much less of the repetitive backstory. I guess Mr. Jordan finally realized that new readers aren't jumping in at this point. However, that's not to say that there are 700 pages of plot here, either. For again, most of the pages are devoted to minutia such as nearly every word spoken during one of Elayne's 3 hour long rides, every thought that Perrin has while walking around his camp, etc. Most of the significant action is squeezed into the last couple of chapters. The story is still interesting, but The Path of Daggers doesn't advance it far enough. But what's annoying me most is that the female WOT characters are the cattiest bunch of women I've ever encountered. Supposedly the Aes Sedai are dignified, cool-headed, and calm, but yet we see them constant bickering, back-biting, squabbling, thinking about their positions relative to others, and worried about what everyone else is thinking. For such powerful women, they are continually showing their shock, getting into petty disagreements, trying to out-wit each other, widening their eyes, adjusting their shawls, and smoothing their skirts (apparently this is an indication of uneasiness, though I have never actually seen an uneasy woman smoothing her skirt). And why the heck are adult women SPANKING each other?!? I find it irritating that women leaders are portrayed this way while the powerful men are portrayed as hard, reserved, and distinguished. I'm sure that Mr. Jordan meant for his female characters to seem strong, but they just come across as bitchy. I really can't figure out why they all take each other so seriously. Read more Robert Jordan book reviews at Fantasy literature.

  7. 5 out of 5

    Gavin

    This was another fun instalment in the WoT series. Just like the last book plot advancement was moving at a snails pace but we did get a few interesting developments and the story was always entertaining. It is the characters, Jordan's storytelling, and the sheer size of the world that make this such a great fantasy series. So what actually happened in this 8th WoT book? SPOILERS AHEAD!!!!!!! Most of our favourite characters went on much as the have been doing for the last few books! Egwene - She This was another fun instalment in the WoT series. Just like the last book plot advancement was moving at a snails pace but we did get a few interesting developments and the story was always entertaining. It is the characters, Jordan's storytelling, and the sheer size of the world that make this such a great fantasy series. So what actually happened in this 8th WoT book? SPOILERS AHEAD!!!!!!! Most of our favourite characters went on much as the have been doing for the last few books! Egwene - She edged closer to the White Tower with her rebels and continued to grow into her role as Amyrlin Seat. I thought this was a good book for her character. Nynaeve and Elayne - They are still stuck at the hip but the pair did have an eventful book. Finally using the Bowl of the Winds and then heading back to Andor for Elayne to make her claim on the Lion Throne. Rand - It was another action packed book for Rand. As well as dealing with the usual political manoeuvrings he had to repel another Seanchan invasion and survive numerous assassination attempts. His chapters were probably the most exciting of any character in this book. Perrin - He got started on his mission to deal with Masema, the Prophet, and his own group merged with Morgase's group. Which provided a ton of amusing moments as she is travelling in disguise. Mat - OK the guy was totally missing in this instalment. Weirdly I never even realized he was gone until I read in a friends review that he had not featured at all in this 8th WoT book. Obviously I never missed him. That said, things did end in a bit of a cliffhanger in the 7th book with him so I hope he features heavily in the next book. The Love Interests - Min, Aviendha, and Faile had little to do in this book and at this point in the story their whole reason for being is simply to be love interests for their guys. Min actually had a good book. She seems a great fit for Rand and was fairly helpful to him throught the story. Faile was Faile. Aviendha really just tagged along a bit with Elayne and Nynaeve. Jordan very much seems to have her character on the shelf for now. Minor Characters - There were a few but the ones who were the most memorable were Morgase and Siuan. The Villains - There POV segments are usually short and super interesting and it was no different in this book as we got a glimpse into what the likes of Greandal, Moridin, Sevanna, Eladia, Alviarin, and a few others were up to. All in all I thought this was a good addition to the series and I seemed like the story flew by while I was reading it which is always a very positive sign. Rating: 4.5 stars. Audio Note: Another great performance from Krammer and Reading.

  8. 5 out of 5

    Choko

    *** 4.44 *** A buddy read with the WoT fanatics at BB&B! This book was a bit slower, a bit shorter and all together the book that felt most as a set-up, transition book of all up to now... The action was a bit choppy, which is not very typical for Jordan, but the banter made the book - all the characters with their quirks and the intricate games of hierarchy and politics, are deliciously masterful, but still, this book suffered form the lack of one of the main characters - Mat was MIA.... The *** 4.44 *** A buddy read with the WoT fanatics at BB&B! This book was a bit slower, a bit shorter and all together the book that felt most as a set-up, transition book of all up to now... The action was a bit choppy, which is not very typical for Jordan, but the banter made the book - all the characters with their quirks and the intricate games of hierarchy and politics, are deliciously masterful, but still, this book suffered form the lack of one of the main characters - Mat was MIA.... The horror!!! He is a total pain in the ass, but without him, the world of WoT is just not quite right... Even with the flaws, the quality and magnitude of this book as part of the series is above most of the books that are out there... The text is full of clues and more questions are raised all the time, as we discover some of the answers that we had encountered previously. Rand is getting crazier, the Black Tower men are becoming more and more suspicious, and the White Tower is a mess of power plays, distrust, and the Black Adja is running rampant in its halls ... The Daughter-Heir finally got to where she should have been since her mother's demise, and two of our favorite characters who got married at the end of the last book, are driving everyone insane by acting like love-sick teenagers... There are bad guys everywhere and we could not trust anyone! So, this book did a good job to show what was going on on all fronts and where things are about to go. Now I expect with the next book we will start getting there:):):) And we want Mat back!!! I wish all of you happy reading and Happy Olympic Games to you all!!!

  9. 5 out of 5

    James

    Book 8 of the Wheel of Time really gets a bad rap. Contrary to common wisdom, plenty happens in this book. The problem, I think, is that nothing gets resolved. (Not having any Mat, especially after the cliffhanger at the end of book 7, doesn't help either.) Is it ridiculous for a fantasy series to still be setting things up 8 books in? Especially when that series was supposed to be 6 books long? OK, yeah, it is. But taken by itself, The Path of Daggers isn't a bad story. Oddly enough, the story b Book 8 of the Wheel of Time really gets a bad rap. Contrary to common wisdom, plenty happens in this book. The problem, I think, is that nothing gets resolved. (Not having any Mat, especially after the cliffhanger at the end of book 7, doesn't help either.) Is it ridiculous for a fantasy series to still be setting things up 8 books in? Especially when that series was supposed to be 6 books long? OK, yeah, it is. But taken by itself, The Path of Daggers isn't a bad story. Oddly enough, the story begins with an event that could easily have been used instead as a climax in book 7. It makes some sense for this event to happen in this book, however, since it has broad implications affecting every other plotline. The core plotlines of the book follow Rand and Egwene, who I'm beginning to notice are actually paired off quite often despite a lack of specific plot crossover. I guess that Jordan guy knew what he was planning after all. The biggest issue with book 8 isn't the fact that it doesn't resolve existing plotlines, it's that it doesn't resolve the plotlines introduced during the book. The stage is set for book 9, where things mercifully do begin to resolve, but the sheer number of cliffhangers in this book is staggering. Without going into details, the book ends after setting up a siege, a succession, a betrayal, and a capture. Add in Mat's cliffhanger, and that's six times the usual frustration. Just be glad you don't need to wait for the next book anymore! All that said, this is an enjoyable and well-written story. We have epic battles, surprise appearances by objects of Power, even some amusing light shed on a few relationships. But the three Aes Sedai-related stories really take the spotlight here (perhaps another reason the book isn't all that popular). Egwene finally begins openly asserting her power, while Elayne sets into motion significant events on both sides of the world. Best of all, seemingly minor Aes Sedai begin an important and long overdue witch hunt that is completely satisfying. There is one particular theme of this book that really changed the series for me. I didn't like book 8 any more than most people the first time I read it, but I have since come to actually like the much-maligned Aes Sedai, and the reason starts here. So far they've proven arrogant, often incompetent, and rarely live up to their reputation. When Egwene proposes a major change in their philosophy, I think most readers would agree with her. However, it is at this point that you really begin to respect the Aes Sedai compared to the various other groups of channelers. They have been humbled at every turn, but they are the ones who've held the world together for 3,000 years, and that's no coincidence. Not only does their fate begin to change here, it's become increasingly clear that their largest problems aren't actually their fault. What it comes down to is that book 8 is a lot more palatable now that book 9 (and 10, 11, and 12) are readily available. Reading a book filled with cliffhangers, even if it does have a few "holy shit!" moments, is not something you want to do a year before the next one arrives. In many ways, book 8 breaks the implied promise of the author, that the story will be further along at the end than at the beginning. In truth it is, but it certainly doesn't feel like it without the context of later events. But stick with it, because the series is finally hitting its peak, and things are about to start changing.

  10. 4 out of 5

    Ryan

    We tend to root for most anti-heroes, but every now and then, authors dare to set a real stinker at the centerpiece of their stories. Sometimes it works. Logan Mountstewart from William Boyd's Any Human Heart comes to mind. Henry Miller's Tropic of Cancer qualifies, I think. And before we certify all shepherds as pure-at-heart heroes, check out Halldor Laxness's Bjartur in Independent People. But these are all examples drawn from the literary canon. What happens when fantasy, a genre often prone t We tend to root for most anti-heroes, but every now and then, authors dare to set a real stinker at the centerpiece of their stories. Sometimes it works. Logan Mountstewart from William Boyd's Any Human Heart comes to mind. Henry Miller's Tropic of Cancer qualifies, I think. And before we certify all shepherds as pure-at-heart heroes, check out Halldor Laxness's Bjartur in Independent People. But these are all examples drawn from the literary canon. What happens when fantasy, a genre often prone to portraying the righteous struggles of angelic heroes against twisted villains, tries to create a real jerk who is also supposed to be not only a hero but a savior?* Well, that should be pretty interesting. Believe it or not, I've heard people complain that they abandoned "The Wheel of Time" because Rand al'Thor became a jerk. To be honest, Robert Jordan has laid extensive groundwork in order to prepare his audience for Rand's corruption of character. He is "tainted," he hears voices, and there is tangible evil literally festering in his stomach. But Rand is also the Dragon Reborn. It's a conflict that comes to a head in (eighth book) Path of Daggars. Having just won Illian's crown, Rand launches a counter attack on the invading Seanchan forces that have taken over the southwest corner of Randland. By now, Rand has conquered a considerable amount of territory, but his prophesied mandate is to unite as many countries as he can before he attacks the Dark One's prison in the Blight. Unfortunately, it's easier to defeat a Forsaken than it is to gain legitimate and stable authority over conquered territories. Chosen One or not, Rand is surrounded by vassals that plot against him. Diabolically, Rand not only launches his invasion of Seanchan territory but also surrounds himself with his most powerful "enemies." Rand is sacrificing lives that indirectly serve him in order to weaken the nobles these soldiers directly strengthen. If nothing else, this is an unusual play for a fantasy author, and I have encountered more than one fellow WOT fan that couldn't take it. To some extent, Rand is a contradiction. He may be a savior figure, but he is also a conqueror. And a politician. Rand wears a laurel leaved crown of prickly swords, which should recall Christ, but also Caesar. What if Rand ends up a tiger, burning bright, rather than a little lamb? So while Path of Daggers suffers from all of what we might call Robert Jordan's "obsessive writing disorders," I find it a notable entry in "The Wheel of Time." *We could argue that Frodo gets a little impatient with Sam now and then. However, if his gig with the One Ring doesn't work out, Frodo could probably still fall back on a career in Santa's workshop.

  11. 4 out of 5

    Evgeny

    This is one of the slowest books of the series. Usually Mat saves the day even when nobody else does anything of value in a book, but this time Mat is not here. This is especially infuriating considering that his plot line ended in a huge cliffhanger in the previous book. Perrin's absence in book 5 is hardly noticeable; Mat's absence here is, especially considering the slow-moving overall plot. It would be unfair to say that nothing at all happens here. I counted four fairly major events in the b This is one of the slowest books of the series. Usually Mat saves the day even when nobody else does anything of value in a book, but this time Mat is not here. This is especially infuriating considering that his plot line ended in a huge cliffhanger in the previous book. Perrin's absence in book 5 is hardly noticeable; Mat's absence here is, especially considering the slow-moving overall plot. It would be unfair to say that nothing at all happens here. I counted four fairly major events in the book which to be fair is not that much for 500+ pages especially considering that readers expected two of them to happen for a really long time. In the beginning of the book Elaine was struggling to keep a leadership role with her motley crew: Sea Folks, Aes Sedai, the Kin, and lovesick Nynaeve. The daughter-queen was constantly in the bad mood as a result, but this part was fairly amusing and this particular subplot contained two out of the four major events I mentioned above - both expected at least one book ago. Egwene in rebel Aes Sedai camp continues manipulating others while trying not to be manipulated. What really bothers me about this whole situation is that everybody is so busy with these games that nobody cares to notice that one character really looks very suspicious and must be at least a Darkfriend (she actually happens to be a Forsaken). As it is, she keeps killing people right under everybody's noses without anybody paying attention. In contrast, the White Tower Aes Sedai actually created a secret group of Black Ajah hunters which developed its methods of detecting them and has its first catch. I found myself sympathizing with the White Tower in this issue - to my complete surprise. Perrin starts the most annoying subplot of the series here. Fortunately the worst part of it comes in the last chapter which means we do not get to experience it here, it will drag on and on without moving anywhere in the next two books. Rand slowly goes mad. He is also the most misunderstood character so far. He has to act alone for the most part which brings up arrogance in his dealings with people. His plot line happens to be the most exciting one with a lot of action. This book is not bad by any means; at no point I was bored by it while reading. The problem with it is that after you finish the realization comes that not much happens here. I gave 3 stars to worse books; this one only gets such a low rating only because it is not up to the standards of the previous ones. This review is a copy/paste of my BookLikes one: http://gene.booklikes.com/post/775669...

  12. 5 out of 5

    Eon ♒Windrunner♒

    The epic Buddies Books & Baubles reread of the Wheel of Time is still in full swing as number 8 is moved to the DONE pile. As with the last book, this one was a slower paced read, but there was lots to enjoy. Except for the lack of Mat. Why Robert Jordan, why?!?!? The stuff that went down: (view spoiler)[ - The bowl of winds is used at last and the weather is wrested from the dark one’s control. Winter is coming… - The Seanchan attack! - The Seanchan are attacked by Rand and his army! - Rand use The epic Buddies Books & Baubles reread of the Wheel of Time is still in full swing as number 8 is moved to the DONE pile. As with the last book, this one was a slower paced read, but there was lots to enjoy. Except for the lack of Mat. Why Robert Jordan, why?!?!? The stuff that went down: (view spoiler)[ - The bowl of winds is used at last and the weather is wrested from the dark one’s control. Winter is coming… - The Seanchan attack! - The Seanchan are attacked by Rand and his army! - Rand uses Callandor to attack all the Seanchan at once, and instead loses control and almost kills his army and himself along with the Seanchan. *takes Callandor away - Elayne claims the throne of Andor. - Perrin confronts Madsema. Or Masema at the book calls him. - Perrin rescues a queen and his queen makes her a chamber maid. - Elyas drops by and gives Perrin some much needed marital advice. - Cadsuane . And Sorilea. Together. O_O They agree to fix Rand. - Egwene pulls a fast one by having the Aes Sedai declare war on Elaida and stops their delaying tactics by Travelling the army to Tar Valon. BOOYA. - The Black Ajah hunt gains momentum. - The White Tower Aes Sedai go to capture the the Black Tower Ashaman. - The White Tower Aes Sedai are captured by the Black Tower Ashaman. - Rand survives an assassination attempt by a group of Ashaman. - Fail is taken prisoner by Sevanna and her Aiel. Perrin’s so gonna go FULL GORILLA on her ass. - Also, there is a serious instance of NO MAT. (hide spoiler)] On to Winter's Heart where one of the BIGGEST events of this series happens!

  13. 4 out of 5

    Maria Dimitrova

    Monthly buddy read (well it was more stalking this time since I couldn't really participate in the discussion) with the fantasy fanatics over at BB&B. This keeps on getting better and better! I can't get enough of this world! There're simply no words to describe this! One of the major plotlines from the past several books finally found it's resolution - the Bowl of Winds was finally used and the weather is on it's way to normal. Though I guess that going from extreme heat and drought to torre Monthly buddy read (well it was more stalking this time since I couldn't really participate in the discussion) with the fantasy fanatics over at BB&B. This keeps on getting better and better! I can't get enough of this world! There're simply no words to describe this! One of the major plotlines from the past several books finally found it's resolution - the Bowl of Winds was finally used and the weather is on it's way to normal. Though I guess that going from extreme heat and drought to torrent rains and snows probably created some pretty awful problems and the consequences will reverberate throughout the world for quite awhile. With that sudden turn the people can say goodbye to whatever crops had survived the drought. Still screwing over the Dark One's plans is always a good thing! And with that out of the way Her Royal Irresponsibility Elayne Trakand can finally get her behind back where she belongs and do what she was trained all her life to do! And she did. But instead of being thankful to Rand who busted his [email protected]@ trying to keep Andor as safe as possible, she threw a tantrum and (view spoiler)[ ripped his banners from the Palace in Caemlyn (hide spoiler)] . Ungrateful brat. I honestly have no idea why Rand likes her! The thing that annoys me most about her little snit is that just as pretty much all the problems in these books it's based on misunderstanding. But instead of talking with each other the characters jump to conclusions and spend entire books wondering why their relationships fail. Talk to each other people! Sometimes it feels like they speak different languages! Rand's getting crazier with each book but I can't help but feel sorry for him. He's just a farmboy that got caught in a situation he never imagined. And he's trying so hard to do the right thing. I admire his dedication even if he screws up more often than not when it comes to politics. He's biggest problem is his inability to clearly communicate what he means. I'm so glad than Min is there for him. Unlike the rest of the women around him she actually helps him cope with all that responsibility. Cadsuane and the rest of the Aes Sedai around him picked the worst possible way to approach him and try to get him to listen. As a result they drive him farther into the madness. It's sad to see women, who should know better act like complete idiots. The Asha'man are becoming a bigger problem and if Rand doesn't establish his dominance over them soon he's going to face an army he won't be able to defeat. Part of the problem is the taint but a bigger part is Taim. Rand should have never had left the man so much leeway. The inevitable did happen and some of the Asha'man betrayed Rand and I wonder if Taim was behind it. He speaks the right words but his actions scream resentment. I was hoping that Logain will be a countering force in the Black Tower but so far we only know he's there. I guess that's a start. (view spoiler)[ I laughed my head off when Logain so easily defeated the Aes Sedai Elaida sent to destroy the Black Tower. (hide spoiler)] I missed Mat in this book. After the event in ACoS I though that he'll have a bigger role here but he was MIA throughout the entire book. I know he's alive but I hope he's well. And that he'll show up in the next novel. Perrin had an interesting plot here and it seems he's going to be neck deep in trouble again very soon. Personally I don't think he should have abide by Masema's demand (view spoiler)[ and just dragged the man to Rand through a gateway. (hide spoiler)] He should have simply said that it's what The Dragon Reborn had ordered and Masema would have had no choice. Instead now he'll be stuck with a rabid dog, one who consorts with the (view spoiler)[Seanchan(view spoiler)[. If that's not a recipe for disaster I don't know what is. And with (view spoiler)[Faile a prisoner of the Shaido (hide spoiler)] we might get to see the wolf's teeth in action. As a whole TPoD is a slower book than the previous but now that I'm so emotionally invested in the story and the characters I don't mind at all. Part of me wants more action but another part wants things to remain a bit slow so I can have more time in this incredible world. (hide spoiler)] (hide spoiler)]

  14. 4 out of 5

    Ashley

    My crawl through this series continues. To be honest, I'd optimistically hoped that I'd be able to finish it by the end of 2017. I was in a good position to, having already read the first five books. Nine books in twelve months? Easy peasy. Except . . . each book has gotten progressively harder to get through. Less and less happens. The flaws stand out more as the plot thins. I've gotten through three of these books in ten months. Even if I manage to do one per month from here on out, I won't be My crawl through this series continues. To be honest, I'd optimistically hoped that I'd be able to finish it by the end of 2017. I was in a good position to, having already read the first five books. Nine books in twelve months? Easy peasy. Except . . . each book has gotten progressively harder to get through. Less and less happens. The flaws stand out more as the plot thins. I've gotten through three of these books in ten months. Even if I manage to do one per month from here on out, I won't be getting to A Memory of Light until April 2018 (though I anticipate my enjoyment increasing when Sanderson takes over, so maybe let's say March instead). What's really frustrating about this series is that Jordan was clearly a gifted worldbuilder. Even as my enjoyment in these books decreases, it's clear that an incredible amount of thought and planning went into their creation. The level of detail on each culture, their histories, traditions and behaviors. The ways each nation interacts with another. The ways the current situation with Rand and the Forsaken and the approaching last battle have created a complicated interlocking game of cause and effect, each player trying to seize control. But the problem here is that none of that makes for a compelling narrative. A story should not be an excuse to show off your worldbuilding. The worldbuilding should be there as support to the story, not the focus. So, so many times in this book, I found myself overwhelmed and bored by the sheer amount of superfluous characters with no arcs and no bearing on the story. So many times characters just sit around musing on things that have happened or aren't happening or are going to happen, while nothing actually happens for hundreds of pages on end because Jordan wanted to make sure we really got that the Aes Sedai argue a lot. So what actually happened in this book? Not much. Much more in the second half than in the first, certainly. We've got: (view spoiler)[1. Nynaeve, Elayne and Aviendha's party (made up of Aes Sedai, Kinswomen, and Sea Folk) use the Bowl of Winds to fix the weather. Elayne accidentally blows things up while undoing a weave, causing the rumor to spread that the Aes Sedai have a new weapon. Elayne and Aviendha decide to officially become first sisters. They travel to Caemlyn so Elayne can take her throne. There is a traitor in their midst. 2. Perrin and Co. are trying to find Masema, the fanatic. They make an alliance with Alliandre. They travel to find Masema. (Perrin learns that if he yells at Faile, she will be less mad at him all the time.) While Perrin is off retrieving Masema, Faile (along with Alliandre and her servants, which includes Morgase in disguise) are capture by the Shaido. 3. Egwene makes her move to solidify her power with the Aes Sedai. She maneuvers so that the Hall declares war on Elaida, and the book ends with her forces Traveling to the Dragonmount. 4. Rand is finally succumbing to the madness from the taint of Saidin. He spends the whole book trying to save face and not let anyone see how sick he is. He is also paranoid. He is also paranoid with reason, as his own Ash'aman include traitors. They push back the Seanchan in Ebou Dar at great cost. Rand kills a bunch of people on both sides. Dashiva the Ash'aman for some reason decides to kill him when they are back in Cairhien. Rand decides to go see Elayne so as to formalize their little polyamorous arrangement, and also he is butthurt because he thinks she doesn't like him anymore. 5. Various interludes showcase the Forsaken, the Shaido, etc. None of them are really significant or interesting, except the one with Cadsuane, which shows she may be the one to get through to Rand (who is a terrible leader), and the one at the White Tower, which shows some sisters finally beginning to make progress on identifying the Black Ajah within their ranks. (hide spoiler)] I didn't leave anything important out. This book was 672 pages long. At least it wasn't longer. I wish he would stop treading water and stop wasting precious narrative time on petty feuds and layovers and status updates, and give us the real goods: character development, characters actually talking about stuff that matters, forward progress. Unfortunately, I've been reliably informed that I've got two more books of meandering before the pace (supposedly) picks up again in book eleven. Lastly, I just want to talk about Rand for a sec. He was a harmlessly likable main character in book one, and only mildly irritating in book two, but since then, he has just descended into this heartless, cruel, anger-ridden character who is so incredibly uninteresting to read about. He is a TERRIBLE leader. I have never before read a book where the main character is so utterly unheroic*, and the text doesn't really take him to task for it. He doesn't seem to be learning, and no one is telling him (in a competent, human way) that he is terrible. Take this exchange, between Rand and Narishma. Narishma is one of his Ash'aman, and he has just come back from a perilous errand to retrieve the sword Callandor, an errand that Rand sent him on. This is how he treats Narishma upon his return: Springing from the cot, Rand snatched the bundle before Narishma could proffer it. "Did anyone see you?" he demanded. "What took you so long? I expected you last night." "It took me a while to figure out what I had to do," Narishma replied in a flat voice. "You didn't tell me everything. You nearly killed me." That was ridiculous. Rand *had* told him everything he needed to know. He was sure of it. There was no point in trusting the man as far as he had, only to have him die and ruin everything. Carefully he tucked the bundle beneath his cot. His hands trembled with the urge to strip the wrapping away, to make sure they held what Narishma had been sent for. The man would not have dared to return if they did not. "Get yourself into a proper coat before you join the others," he said. "And Narishma . . . " Rand straightened, fixing the other man with a steady gaze. "You tell anyone about this, and I *will* kill you." Okay, so let's break this down: Narishma, who has given Rand no indication of being untrustworthy (in fact, Rand must have trusted him to give him such an important mission, out of hundreds of Ash'aman) has just come back, giving Rand what he asked for, and he has done so letting Rand know there were extra wards that Rand did not tell him about. Instead of thanking him for risking his life and succeeding despite unexpected peril, Rand berates him, disbelieves him. He immediately distrusts his comrade, instead of thinking that someone else might have added wards on top of his own as a trap for anyone retrieving the sword. He then dismisses Narishma seemingly without thought, parting by threatening to kill him. He has taken a moment in which he could have built solidarity with his subordinate, inspired loyalty, and instead dismissed and humiliated and threatened him. There is absolutely no reason Rand could not have expressed the same practical sentiments, even the part about secrecy being worth Narishma's life, in more appreciative terms, in terms an actual leader would use, a leader who inspires his troops rather than rules them from a place of fear, as Rand is doing now. I kind of despise him. *Never mind, I thought of one. Richard Rahl from the Sword of Truth (I've read through book five as of now). Total and utter dictator. Cruel, stupid, overbearing. And while I still hold out hope that Rand will learn to effectively lead and rehumanize himself in future books, I fully expect Richard to become even worse over time, as the author clearly believes his actions noble, and has no intention of criticizing them. Anyhoodle, Winter's Heart is up next, and TBH I'm a little spoiled. I don't foresee it changing my opinion about the book one way or the other. At least I know two things that will happen, even if almost nothing else will. [2.5 stars, rounding up to three, because it just isn't two star worthy. I think there is still more dull to come]

  15. 5 out of 5

    Rob

    Executive Summary: This is definitely one of the weaker books in the series so far, and there are a large number of pages where it feels like very little happens. I'm still enjoying my reread, but I know that things will only get slower before they finally pick back up again. Audiobook: Doing this book in audio is pretty much a must for me now. I don't think I'd have managed to read it very quickly otherwise. Micheal Kramer and Kate Reading are fantastic as always. Full Review This book should ma Executive Summary: This is definitely one of the weaker books in the series so far, and there are a large number of pages where it feels like very little happens. I'm still enjoying my reread, but I know that things will only get slower before they finally pick back up again. Audiobook: Doing this book in audio is pretty much a must for me now. I don't think I'd have managed to read it very quickly otherwise. Micheal Kramer and Kate Reading are fantastic as always. Full Review This book should maybe be renamed The Path of Squabbles. There is so much pointless bickering at times, it really bogs part of the book down. There are a few very big plot developments here, one near the beginning, but most of them occur near the end. That leaves a lot of pages in between where I was left wondering what the point of some of these chapters were. And if that's not bad enough, Mat was completely missing. We got a lot of him in the last book, and he seems to like to take time away, much like he did with Perrin in The Fires of Heaven. My other problem is that I find myself starting to get annoyed by many of the characters. I think my affection for many of them at different parts of the series helps carry me through, but I feel like a lot of this could have been edited down. I'm still enjoying my reread, but I'm dreading the next two books a little bit. Of course the end of this book left me eager to pick up the next one soon, but that's often the case with this series, even in the weakest books.

  16. 4 out of 5

    Hasham Rasool

    "The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth returns again. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the Shadow." I truly love this series a lot and I am so glad that I read this book. Alhamdulillah. This book is slowly but it flows beautiful and I love the way Jordan developed the main characters and story through the series. Matrim Cauthon has no scene in t "The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth returns again. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the Shadow." I truly love this series a lot and I am so glad that I read this book. Alhamdulillah. This book is slowly but it flows beautiful and I love the way Jordan developed the main characters and story through the series. Matrim Cauthon has no scene in this book as it makes me wonder why Jordan didn't include him in it. I always think Jordan was a very clever writer and Sanderson too. I trust Jordan as I think Jordan intended to develop the story and expanded more in the story. These books of 'The Wheel of Time' are special.

  17. 5 out of 5

    Phrynne

    I really enjoyed this book and what a great series this is turning out to be. There was a lot more action in this one (which is number 8) and a lot of character development. I am listening to the series on audio book and was quite surprised when it suddenly finished right in the middle of so many major events. Now I have to start straight into the next book. How lucky they are all published and I do not have to wait weeks or even years for the next instalment!

  18. 4 out of 5

    YouKneeK

    The Path of Daggers is the eighth book in The Wheel of Time. I enjoyed it as much as the previous books. I sound like a broken record, but maybe that's appropriate for a series called The Wheel of Time... Quite a few small and not-so-small threads made some significant progress and there were several things I particularly enjoyed reading about. If I didn’t have the next book queued up and ready to go, I might have complained that I wanted to spend more time with some of the different storylines. The Path of Daggers is the eighth book in The Wheel of Time. I enjoyed it as much as the previous books. I sound like a broken record, but maybe that's appropriate for a series called The Wheel of Time... Quite a few small and not-so-small threads made some significant progress and there were several things I particularly enjoyed reading about. If I didn’t have the next book queued up and ready to go, I might have complained that I wanted to spend more time with some of the different storylines. So much is going on that there really wasn’t much time for each storyline within the “mere” 669 pages. That’s 200-400 pages shorter than each of the last four books, after all! My spoiler-filled comments are enclosed in the tags below. These are just random comments about some of the things I enjoyed or that stuck out to me. (view spoiler)[The Bowl of the Winds finally got used and now everybody can stop sweating and start shivering! I was also happy to see Elayne get back home to start dealing with the business of taking the throne. I wonder how long that plot line will take to reach resolution… I liked it when Morgase ran into Perrin’s party. I never expected that, and it will be interesting if/when he finds out who she is. Assuming the ones who were captured by the Shaido get free, or get rescued by Perrin, of course, and they all manage to meet back up. And if Masema doesn’t cause even more trouble. This was one of the storylines I wanted to spend more time in. I also liked Elyas’ appearance and would have liked to see more of him, but at least he managed to use his few pages wisely with advice for Perrin that will hopefully help Perrin handle his annoying wife. Initial results seem promising. :) But seriously, what’s with Berelain wearing revealing clothes when Perrin’s around and modest clothes when he’s not? They’re traveling, for goodness’ sake; it’s not like she has infinite luggage space! Are we really supposed to believe she packed different types of clothes so she could dress differently depending on Perrin’s presence? I really enjoyed seeing Egwene’s plotting and schemes come to fruition as she maneuvered the Aes Sedai into giving her more power as the Amyrlin, at least on war-related decisions. I look forward to finding out what happens now that they’re headed through the gate to the White Tower. I was also really engrossed in the itsy bitsy storyline that started in the previous book with Seaine and Pevara trying to root out the black ajah in the white tower. Very few pages have been devoted to it, but I was enjoying it, especially once they started using the oath rod. I hope it continues on in some fashion despite whatever happens between the White Tower and Egwene’s group. Logain finally showed back up too, but so, so briefly. I hope to learn more about what’s going on with him in the next book. I’ve been expecting the Asha’man to cause trouble from the beginning, but I was caught by surprise when several of them suddenly attempted to kill Rand near the end. I hadn’t been expecting the trouble right then, but I guess I should have been expecting some sort of battle at the end of the book since that seems to be the norm. I’m wondering if there’s a deeper plot there, possibly involving Taim, or if it really was just a few rebels. I'm expecting more trouble! Mat and Thom were both completely missing from this book, which was a little annoying considering they were in jeopardy at the end of the previous book. Hopefully we’ll see them in the next book. (hide spoiler)]

  19. 4 out of 5

    David

    I congratulate everyone who has the perseverance to continue on while envying those who had the force of will to just forget about how this epic story is supposed to end. Here we are at book 8 and like book 7, very little of the main plot actually happens. Most of the book are again devoted to describing in excruciating detail of how the main characters tend to act and think, with very little variation, mostly accomplishing nothing except introduce filler and making characters feel one-dimension I congratulate everyone who has the perseverance to continue on while envying those who had the force of will to just forget about how this epic story is supposed to end. Here we are at book 8 and like book 7, very little of the main plot actually happens. Most of the book are again devoted to describing in excruciating detail of how the main characters tend to act and think, with very little variation, mostly accomplishing nothing except introduce filler and making characters feel one-dimensional. Of course, there's now also a bit of slavery coming in so expect to see a lot of boxing and switching in addition to the breasts of book 7. Yes, I'm ranting, but I'm still reading. I don't know what Jordan was hoping to do when writing this book. The focus on the main characters appears to be more on Egwene this time, but there's a bit of the others. His style is still there and when the main plot moves an inch, you can tell that his superb writing skills are still there. It's just that, strangely, he indulges in the over-description of very trivial events, very trivial one-off characters, and very trivial dialogues. If you can still stomach the incredibly wordy descriptions, there's still bits of gems here and there.

  20. 4 out of 5

    Ivana Azap Feješ

    There wasn't very much of Met in this book (I guess everyone need a break at some point of this looong story;)), so I will reminiscence on some details about Mat, that is the best bloody character I've ever read!!! Blood and bloody ashes! -Mat Cauthon, all the time "I read a book once." -Mat Cauthon “It was a simple truth; the Creator made women so men would not find life too easy.” - Matrim Cauthon "Yes, I'm alive. I'm usually pretty good at staying alive. I've only failed one time that I can remem There wasn't very much of Met in this book (I guess everyone need a break at some point of this looong story;)), so I will reminiscence on some details about Mat, that is the best bloody character I've ever read!!! Blood and bloody ashes! -Mat Cauthon, all the time "I read a book once." -Mat Cauthon “It was a simple truth; the Creator made women so men would not find life too easy.” - Matrim Cauthon "Yes, I'm alive. I'm usually pretty good at staying alive. I've only failed one time that I can remember, and it hardly counts..." -Mat Everything by Mat - who is the best bloody character I've ever read - Burn me if he isn't!!! :D

  21. 4 out of 5

    Iniya

    A Verbose book as usual, with lot of descriptions and some significant incidents.. I would have liked this better if it had not been mostly about the girls -_-. Missed Mat in this book.. And end chapters were better than the rest of the book..

  22. 4 out of 5

    Richard Bray

    I’m starting to wonder if I’ve made a mistake in deciding that I wanted to complete THE WHEEL OF TIME by reading all the books in the series consecutively. With THE PATH OF DAGGERS now under my belt, I’m eight books into the 14-book saga, and I can’t honestly say that I feel any closer to the conclusion than I was three or four books ago. When I began reading THE WHEEL OF TIME, I was a senior in high school, so I was able to read the first seven or eight books consecutively without having to wait I’m starting to wonder if I’ve made a mistake in deciding that I wanted to complete THE WHEEL OF TIME by reading all the books in the series consecutively. With THE PATH OF DAGGERS now under my belt, I’m eight books into the 14-book saga, and I can’t honestly say that I feel any closer to the conclusion than I was three or four books ago. When I began reading THE WHEEL OF TIME, I was a senior in high school, so I was able to read the first seven or eight books consecutively without having to wait for the next installment. But once I caught up to Jordan, I had to wait a couple years between books, and in that time other characters and other plots filled my mind, shoving Jordan’s characters into the background. By the time the next book had been published, I found it impossible to distinguish the lesser characters or keep the infinite subplots tidy in my mind. After THE CROSSROADS OF TWILIGHT, I decided that once the series ended – if it ended – I would go back and read the whole thing from start to finish. With A MEMORY OF LIGHT set for a January release, I started with EYE OF THE WORLD this fall and remembered why this series has established itself as one of the most famous and successful fantasy series in history. By this point – after reading nothing but WHEEL OF TIME for months – I also remember why I needed to put the series down and why Jordan’s detractors are just as vocal as his fans. Jordan’s world building is strong and the narrative scope of the book is unparalleled by anyone but Tolkien and Steven Erikson, but he has two flaws that have really drawn the ire of Jordan’s critics. The first is his wordiness, the way he uses a full page to describe something when a sentence will do. Sometimes it makes for beautiful prose, but most of the time it just seems like verbal diarrhea. I work as a communications specialist at a college, a job that requires me to speak to college professors and administrators regularly, and while most everyone is quite pleasant, there are some people I dread speaking to, especially when I’m on a deadline, because they’ll speak with me for an hour while providing just a few minutes of real, useful information. Jordan reminds me of these people. He cranks out these 700-page paperbacks, but for the last few books it feels like I’ve only gotten 300 pages of the book I want to read and 400 pages of padding. Jordan’s second flaw only compounds the first issue. Jordan has created a deep and detailed world and he literally provides us with dozens of POV characters. Early in the series, this was a strength, but as Jordan has added more characters, plots and subplots, it has become too much for him – and possibly any author – to manage. Characters take center stage in one book, then disappear for the next two. Once you decide you like a character’s plotline, they’re gone for the next 1,500 pages. Or a character does nothing for a book or two, finally lulling you into complete and utter apathy, and then they take center stage. Early in the series I didn’t like Egwene, but her plotline with the Aiel and the Wise Ones made her one of the more likeable characters in the series to me. But once she became the Amyrlin Seat, she spent the next two books doing nothing. By the time THE PATH OF DAGGERS began, I no longer cared that much about Egwene. She’d been inactive for far too long. Then she began taking action in this book, moving the plot forward and changing the landscape of the story. She was one of the best parts of this book, but even as I think on how much better she was in this book, I can’t help but remember that she’s been a non-entity for the two books beforehand. When A CROWN OF SWORDS ended, I was looking forward to A PATH OF DAGGERS in some part because of the way Mat Cauthon’s storyline ended, with him trapped in Ebou Dar as the Seanchan take over the city. We’d already been told that Mat was destined to marry the Daughter of the Nine Moons, who is apparently Seanchan, so I was looking forward to getting more insight into Seanchan society and seeing how Mat would interact with the Seanchan’s warrior society. So, of course, I was disappointed when Mat made exactly zero appearances in this book. There are plenty of instances of this – characters picked up and then dropped, plotlines seemingly forgotten – and it’s all a product of Jordan trying to tell too many stories. The sheer scope of the series is admirable, but at this point, I can’t help but think that I’d rather read a book with just a handful of plotlines that the author can really dig into.

  23. 4 out of 5

    Jonathan Terrington

    There are no beginnings or endings to the Wheel of Time series but there is plenty of room for re-reading. However, unfortunately - at least for myself - this is the point in the series where everything started to become slow. I don't find that it became any less enjoyable, but nothing really happens in this book and in the two following. From books 8 to 10 the material could easily have been condensed into one solid 800 page novel rather than three separate 600 to 800 page novels. What Robert Jo There are no beginnings or endings to the Wheel of Time series but there is plenty of room for re-reading. However, unfortunately - at least for myself - this is the point in the series where everything started to become slow. I don't find that it became any less enjoyable, but nothing really happens in this book and in the two following. From books 8 to 10 the material could easily have been condensed into one solid 800 page novel rather than three separate 600 to 800 page novels. What Robert Jordan did at this point in my eyes is to stretch his material, apparently losing track of his grand and sprawling world, to the point where he lost complete control of his pacing. I find that pacing can be crucial for a novel. There have been novels I have read which were brilliantly plotted yet the very end was hastily strung together to resolve the crisis. The climax lost its power and deus-ex-machinas became a highlight as a result. This is what I feel happens to a degree in this novel. I've mentioned that Jordan has a tendency to allow other previous novels to end in a rush of action after a slow crawl, however this novel happens to feature a particularly rushed conclusion. The pace of which throws the balance of the novel out of alignment. The plot focuses on nearly all our main characters. However the big flaw of this novel is that a drawcard character - Matrim Cauthon - has no scenes, whatsoever in this novel. (view spoiler)[The invasion of the Seanchan happens around him and he is not featured once (hide spoiler)] . I'm a firm believer that if you, as a writer, are not the most skilled artiste with your use of language, that you have to use what you do have to the best. I did not receive the sense from this novel that Jordan did that. His prose is passable certainly, yet as a writer lacking the power of greater literary stylists, for him to write a novel not utilising drawcard characters, is in my eyes a mistake. Apart from the usual political scandals or battles rocking the world of The Wheel of Time (or Randland as it is otherwise nicknamed by the fans) very little happens in this book. That is until the end, which is why as mentioned before the pacing feels off for this entire book. It meanders until the end. Of course I personally find that it meanders in an entertaining if not profound way and then tries to set up a series of events for the following novel. On the whole I would state that, as when I first read this novel, this is a lowlight in an otherwise monumental series. It certainly is a passably adequate novel, yet it lacks the storytelling power of other books in the series. I believe strongly that Jordan's series is one in which the ideas and the story is greater than the novels themselves at times. Save for books 3,4,5 and 11 onwards which are excellent as novels in my eyes. Take it or leave it, The Wheel of Time is a great achievement of a series. However it tends to be one of those series read mainly for the entertainment aspect. The writing is merely adequate, the characters wax and wane and the battle sequences as a point of difference are thrilling. It is a masterpiece in my eyes, yet one which has incredibly visible flaws. And I somehow like it all the more for that.

  24. 5 out of 5

    Kyle

    The Wheel of Time series represents, for me, the perfect example of a guilty pleasure in the world of fantasy. This series is not actually written very well. Robert Jordan was not a very good wordsmith, and he really only knew how to say and describe things one way. His characters are generally unbelievable, and have ridiculous dialogue. The plot is tremendously predictable, and is heavily influenced (close to the point of being unoriginal) by the fantasy works that came before. The whole story i The Wheel of Time series represents, for me, the perfect example of a guilty pleasure in the world of fantasy. This series is not actually written very well. Robert Jordan was not a very good wordsmith, and he really only knew how to say and describe things one way. His characters are generally unbelievable, and have ridiculous dialogue. The plot is tremendously predictable, and is heavily influenced (close to the point of being unoriginal) by the fantasy works that came before. The whole story is much, much longer than it needs to be and obviously became bigger than Jordan could handle. That being said... I still enjoy these books. I can't rationally explain it, and I've re-read most of them at least a couple times. I shouldn't be so attached to them, yet I'm chained by my own embarrassed desire to periodically dive into the wheel of time. The only explanation I can think of, is that Jordan was a wizard. Not a skillful, subtle, thoughtful wizard; a sneaky, dark, and soul-sucking wizard who has enchanted me by his mediocre writing. Many people despise and look down their nose at these books, and I totally understand that. Many people also love and adore these books, and will forever place The Wheel of Time series upon their list of all-time favorite books. I can understand that impulse too. I realize this review is lacking in helpfulness, but the important thing to take away is this: try these books out. If you hate them, then fine. At least you'll have given them a chance. If you Love them, then great! Good for you, and you have a long, LONG, journey ahead of you filled with something you love. Either way, you'll have exposed yourself to one of the most famous fantasy series of all time.

  25. 5 out of 5

    Manveer

    This obsession and excessive WoT reading is unhealthy, I think. Well, in my defense, this book was very small. No Mat POV sucked, especially given his situation at the end of the last book. Rest was pretty much fine, I guess.

  26. 5 out of 5

    Kaitlin

    I struggled knowing what to rate this book as at first because I didn't live it as much as the previous 2 all the way through and it did seem a little slower in places, however I did think that it was filled with some interesting things and events. In the end I had to rate it a 4*s because it still interested me. I would have like it to be longer (as many have said) and more dramatic at the ending, but overall it was a good addition in the series. One thing I enjoyed in this book was the return I struggled knowing what to rate this book as at first because I didn't live it as much as the previous 2 all the way through and it did seem a little slower in places, however I did think that it was filled with some interesting things and events. In the end I had to rate it a 4*s because it still interested me. I would have like it to be longer (as many have said) and more dramatic at the ending, but overall it was a good addition in the series. One thing I enjoyed in this book was the return of Elyas who was a really interesting character from an earlier book and one that makes Perrin's story a lot better. He's a good friend to Perrin and he knows a lot about the troubles Perrin will have to face in future meaning that he's a good 'guide' for him. Egwene become a very feisty and sneaky character in this book which I very much enjoyed and I think that the next book will be even more dramatic with her. She started in the last book to really show her initial plans but in this one she grows up and fulfils some of them. I do think that this book marks a change in many of the characters for they way that they handle themselves and the things that they achieve. They all go from being young adults to really growing into their roles and that makes a nice change. Elayne also has to grow up further in this book as she marches to reclaim her title. She's dedicated to her cause and she knows what she has to do to achieve her goals which makes her far more interesting than before where she mostly whined. Cadsuane is a sneaky and very conniving character whom I have yet to make my mind up about. Sometimes she seems nice and knowledgeable whilst at other times she's sarcastic and unhelpful. I'm not sure I know what her true motives are yet and so she's certainly one to watch... Min continues to be a good character in this book and stays by Rand's side again. She is a fun character but she seems to be rather dependant on Rand and her worries over him rather than all of the auras and visions she sees which can get slightly on my nerves. Even so she's still a great and jokey character and she helps us see Rand as a more down to earth person. In this book Rand has a few struggles with the Asha'man and this leads up to problems by the end of the book. We also have the struggle.internally between him and his old friend Lews Therin again which hints at more of the past. Mat isn't a huge character in this book and doesn't have a huge focus. Perrin equally doesn't feature too largely as he's journeying to meet the Prophet. Faile is an important character at the end of this book from the position she ends up in and I hope that this predicament means she'll have a more excited story from now on. Overall a good book and a good continuation. It could be better with more of a climatic ending as this wasn't as dramatic as I hoped but I'm looking forward to the next book. 4*s Let me know your thoughts too.

  27. 5 out of 5

    Adriana ♩♪

    I am still reading and enjoying the WoT series. I don't want to sound emotional, but I love this series and had (and still have) a great time participating in the WoT discussions. This book was short but packed with exciting events in the end. I'm looking forward to know what's going to happen next.

  28. 5 out of 5

    Sotiris Karaiskos

    The 8th part of this magnificent series, with things evolving in the same rhythms as the previous one, with most protagonists having intense activity. The Dragon has somehow balanced things, with the help of consultants who accept to listen to their advice and with his allies continues his course, but his successes have exacerbated his self-confidence and make him carelessness, causing problems as well carelessness is the only thing he does not need when its enemies make plans, and the invaders The 8th part of this magnificent series, with things evolving in the same rhythms as the previous one, with most protagonists having intense activity. The Dragon has somehow balanced things, with the help of consultants who accept to listen to their advice and with his allies continues his course, but his successes have exacerbated his self-confidence and make him carelessness, causing problems as well carelessness is the only thing he does not need when its enemies make plans, and the invaders across the ocean continue to procrastinate, on a collision course with him that unavoidable will lead to a huge battle. His friends who their fate designate them to lead are gaining more and more confidence in this role, having the necessary help from experienced people, so they can give courage and confidence to their followers and become more effective. Along with this, however, more responsibilities come, and the weights they have to lift are growing. The young leader of the rebel Aes Sedai, has the most difficult role, as her power is constantly questioned, but with clever handling, she tries to consolidate her power more and gain respect before the campaign against the White Tower begins. In general, it is a book that is very interesting as our heroes are evolving even further, going a long way forward, through situations that can be funny, dangerous, even emotional. This interest becomes even more intense since even the rest of the protagonists in our history, on the two opposing sides of light and darkness, do not remain idle and make tireless efforts to play their own role in the developments that may follow slow rhythms but they are especially crucial for the continuation, especially towards the end of the book, where things become dangerous as we move towards the heart of winter. 8ο μέρος αυτής της μεγαλειώδους σειράς, με τα πράγματα να εξελίσσονται στους ίδιους ρυθμούς με το προηγούμενο, με τους περισσότερους πρωταγωνιστές να έχουν έντονη δραστηριότητα. Ο Δράκοντας έχει κάπως ισορροπήσει έχοντας τη βοήθεια συμβούλων που δέχεται να ακούσει τις συμβουλές τους και με τους συμμάχους του συνεχίζει την πορεία του, οι συνεχόμενες επιτυχίες του, όμως, έχουν τονώσει υπερβολικά την αυτοπεποίθηση του και τον κάνουν απρόσεκτο, κάτι που του προκαλεί προβλήματα καθώς η απροσεξία είναι το μόνο πράγμα που δεν χρειάζεται τη στιγμή που οι εχθροί του κάνουν σχέδια και οι εισβολείς πέρα από τον ωκεανό εξακολουθούν να προελαύνουν, ερχόμενοι σε πορεία σύγκρουσης μαζί του που αναπόφευκτα θα οδηγήσει σε μία μεγάλη μάχη. Οι φίλοι του που τους έχει ορίσει η μοίρα να ηγηθούν αποκτούν όλο και περισσότερη αυτοπεποίθηση σε αυτό το ρόλο, έχοντας και την απαραίτητη βοήθεια από έμπειρους ανθρώπους, και έτσι μπορούν να δώσουν θάρρος και σιγουριά στους ακόλουθους τους και να γίνουν περισσότερο αποτελεσματικοί. Μαζί με αυτό, όμως, έρχονται περισσότερες ευθύνες και τα βάρη που πρέπει να σηκώσουν αυξάνονται. Η νεαρή ηγέτιδα των επαναστατών Άες Σεντάι έχει τον δυσκολότερο ρόλο καθώς η εξουσία της αμφισβητείται διαρκώς, με έξυπνους χειρισμούς, όμως, προσπαθεί να εδραιώσει περισσότερο την εξουσία της και να κερδίσει τον σεβασμό λίγο πριν ξεκινήσει η εκστρατεία ενάντια στο Λευκό Πύργο. Γενικότερα πρόκειται για ένα βιβλίο που έχει πολύ ενδιαφέρον καθώς οι ήρωες μας εξελίσσονται ακόμα περισσότερο, προχωρώντας πολλά βήματα μπροστά, μέσα από καταστάσεις μπορεί να είναι αστείες, επικίνδυνες, ακόμα και συναισθηματικές. Αυτό το ενδιαφέρον γίνεται ακόμα εντονότερο από τη στιγμή που ακόμα και οι υπόλοιποι πρωταγωνιστές της ιστορίας μας, στις δύο αντιμαχόμενες πλευρές του φωτός και του σκότους, δεν μένουν αδρανείς και κάνουν άοκνες προσπάθειες για να παίξουν το δικό τους ρόλο στις εξελίξεις, που μπορεί να ακολουθούν αργούς ρυθμούς αλλά είναι ιδιαίτερα καθοριστικές για τη συνέχεια, ιδιαίτερα προς το τέλος του βιβλίου, όπου τα πράγματα σοβαρεύουν επικίνδυνα καθώς προχωράμε προς την καρδιά του χειμώνα.

  29. 4 out of 5

    Allison

    A Path of Daggers is the low point for me in the Wheel of Time series. It can easily be summed up as various groups of catty women vying for superiority over each other. Seriously, the first third consists of Elayne and Nynaeve, Aviendha, Birgitte, the rebel Aes Sedai with them, the Sea Folk, and the Kin, all trying to out-do each other on the way to the Farm. Once they get to the Farm, (view spoiler)[they finally use the Bowl that they spent the whole last book searching for (hide spoiler)] . Th A Path of Daggers is the low point for me in the Wheel of Time series. It can easily be summed up as various groups of catty women vying for superiority over each other. Seriously, the first third consists of Elayne and Nynaeve, Aviendha, Birgitte, the rebel Aes Sedai with them, the Sea Folk, and the Kin, all trying to out-do each other on the way to the Farm. Once they get to the Farm, (view spoiler)[they finally use the Bowl that they spent the whole last book searching for (hide spoiler)] . This scene is great, but I feel that it could have happened as part of the last book, making it even better. We could have done without 200 pages of describing only a couple of hours riding on horses. Even my favorite strand of the story, Egwene's, is so full of maneuvering that it is difficult to tell her group of Aes Sedai from those in the rest of the book (although I think Egwene is brilliant and by far the best woman in the whole lot). In addition to Egwene's rebels and Elayne's crowd, there's Elaida and Alviarin at the White Tower, and a bunch of other Aes Sedai with Cadsuane, not to mention the Wise Ones and Aes Sedai with Perrin and in Cairhien. It just gets bogged down at this point, and there's not enough humor to counteract all the irritation that characters are feeling about each other. And the Sea Folk! I liked them when we first met them on the way to Tanchico but it turns out they are the most dreadful with their superiority claims. I am also not fond of the Perrin story at this point because he's in Ghealdan tracking down the Prophet and running into the Shaido. For some reason that's just not my favorite part of any of these books. I dislike Masema and the Dragonsworn, and I am not too fond of Sevannah and the Shaido. I'd like to move on. But not a whole lot happens with Perrin either, except for another new plot-line being introduced. It starts to seem like hours are weeks with how much detail we get on not a whole lot actually happening. Then when we get to Rand, it's not just slow, but at a standstill. We find that Rand is avoiding going back to Cairhien, and he mainly sits on his horse in the middle of rainy battle against the Seanchan, surrounded by all of his political enemies, getting sick every time he tries to channel, raving at a madman in his head, and feeling sorry for himself. It's one of the darker times that he goes through, and I can't wait for it to move on. The action does pick up a little at the end, when (view spoiler)[some renegade Asha'man try to kill Rand after he finally gets done with the battle (hide spoiler)] . To top it all off, there's no Mat at all, and I missed him. A couple of important things do happen in this book, so I slogged through it, not wanting to miss any of those details that can be so important later. I put it behind me with relief, though. The worst is over.

  30. 4 out of 5

    Zayne

    *1.5 stars I can't believe I'm saying this, but I give up. I cannot take this book anymore. The book started off well. This was the first WoT audiobook I read and the narrators made all six hours of Nyneave and Co. tolerable. But their great voices started wearing off. I found it harder and harder to pick the book up until finally I dropped it. A friend suggested I drop it for a week and see I would want to come back to it after. Sadly I didn't want to. I started forcing myself to pick it up just *1.5 stars I can't believe I'm saying this, but I give up. I cannot take this book anymore. The book started off well. This was the first WoT audiobook I read and the narrators made all six hours of Nyneave and Co. tolerable. But their great voices started wearing off. I found it harder and harder to pick the book up until finally I dropped it. A friend suggested I drop it for a week and see I would want to come back to it after. Sadly I didn't want to. I started forcing myself to pick it up just so I could finish. I would pick it up 10 mins at a time, get tired of Nyneave and Elayne and Egwene and all the Aes Sedai, then drop it. When Perrin finally came in, I thought the book was saved but that even his POV went down hill. The reason I can't tolerate the book anymore is mainly because of the characters. Most are not fun to read about. In fact, with most of the POVs, I feel like ripping my hair out. Nyneave, Elayne, Egwene, Aviendha, Elaida, almost every other Aes Sedai, even Faile sometimes. I can't tolerate how annoying and stupid they are. I don't think this is the end of Wheel of Time for me. I just have so little reading time currently, and there are so many great books out there, that I do not want to waste my time reading a book I don't like. I'll come back to it after a while and finish it. But until then, I rate it 1.5 stars. the 0.5 for the few parts I did enjoy.

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